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BBG is basically P2W (just not as P2W as basically every other mobile game)

SSP_RismSSP_Rism Member Posts: 2,043 Underlord 2016
edited October 6 in BB GOLD
Let me explain:
1. All of the good weapons are expensive for most classes (riggs is an exception)

2. All of the starter weapons suck bad unless they have proper equips and even then not so good (double rainbow, big shot, grenader blah blah blah)

3. A lot of weapons are too expensive for new players to even dream of reaching

4. The Pro mode exist and are expensive

5. Equips exists and are expensive
Equip 2 slot not only costs gas but have a level lock

6. Loadout slots exist and are expensive

7. Level locks are really high for new players (but i sort of see why certain weapons would have it as they require much more skill to use and therefore prevent new players from wasting stuff on it when it's useless for them).

8. People don't know about the community and therefore miss out on the strats we know.

so how do we fix these problems and make it new player friendly?

1.Every weapon over 200,000 joules should be reduced to 200k
Every weapon between 100,000-199,999 joules should be reduced to 100k
Every weapon over 75 gas should be reduced to 75 gas
Every cheap gas weapon (under 60 gas) should be turned into joules using this formula: gas>joules>x1000>x2 (e.g. Steamshot is 30 gas then 60,000 joules)

2. All of them are gonna get buffed anyway so i mean...

3. Jump is default.
radar is 120,000 joules and only shows enemies who have hit you recently or ones in front of you.


4. All equips +1 is default and +2 follow the same formula as the cheap gas weapon formula (e.g. Speed +2 is 20 gas then 20,000 joules)
equip slot 2 is 1 joule and no level lock/default (whichever works)

5. Loadout slot 2 is free

6. All level locks are halved or removed

7. Advertise the forums maybe? Kind of like the get free gas but "join the forums" and pressing on it will lead you to the forums.

this would be very benefitial considering basically every mobile shooter is broken and or p2w, with a totally new player friendly game that also supports a competitive with the balance of the game, including the massive amount of content the game can constantly get and keep players. This would lead the game to start slowly rebuilidng itself and the community as more and more people just find themselves in the menu seeing the "forums" button and with that bbg should be totally new player friendly. Skins/premium classes are ridiculously expensive still so people will still pay money and even then usually when players buy a class with money they'll get a bit extra to buy weapons for their new class so a profit is still easy to get.
These may seem cheap but remember when you started 50,000 joules was super expensive ;).
SSS

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  • Crash_NebulaCrash_Nebula Member Posts: 462 Recruit
    This is ridiculous but somehow it could actually work really well.
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  • NYCONYCO Member Posts: 1,062 Sergeant
    Hmmm. I like this. Considering that many people in the game has grind enough to get there goods and are pretty over powered to newbies. Making the game more newbie friendly may expand the size of the community as newbies won't have an excused to why they can't compete because veterans tend to have better equipment.

    But if everything is cheaper. Where does Sky Vu get their profit?
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  • Soo__heySoo__hey Member Posts: 333 Underlord 2016
    What about we just remove every unlockable item in the game along with any special equipment.
    SSS
  • SSP_RismSSP_Rism Member Posts: 2,043 Underlord 2016
    NYCO wrote: »
    Hmmm. I like this. Considering that many people in the game has grind enough to get there goods and are pretty over powered to newbies. Making the game more newbie friendly may expand the size of the community as newbies won't have an excused to why they can't compete because veterans tend to have better equipment.

    But if everything is cheaper. Where does Sky Vu get their profit?

    Skins, classes and people get impatient. With the weapons being over 60 gas people will still have to buy 2 smalls to get the weapon. Also ads in game and with more people playing more ads are being paid for so skyvu gets more money while also having the best game.
    SSS
  • thecheeseloverthecheeselover Member Posts: 3,332 Noble
    edited March 21
    It might bridge the difference between older players and newer players.Older players have millions of joules,allng with 100s of gas worth of weapons and wkins.Hopefully this idea(ssp's idea) could bridge the gap and allow a lot more players to compete with the older players,who have massive amounts of joules and gas.

    It could also help out new players,which I endorse ;)
  • LilyBLilyB Member Posts: 143 Recruit
    edited March 21
    Or or or they could make auto matching only levels 1-20 so it can be fair instead of just making everything free. Problem solved! :wink: :smiley: good thing if they wanna play other people/friends they could just make a match.
    Ex:
    30's-40's
    50's-70's
    80's-100+
  • SSP_RismSSP_Rism Member Posts: 2,043 Underlord 2016
    LilyB wrote: »
    Or or or they could make auto matching only levels 1-20 so it can be fair instead of just making everything free. Problem solved! :wink: :smiley: good thing if they wanna play other people/friends they could just make a match.
    Ex:
    30's-40's
    50's-70's
    80's-100+

    players in lobbys tho and matchmaking is skill rating based but there's just so few people that the closeat rank to 500 can be 1 million.
    It wouldn't change the p2w problem as lobbying stays the same and the game looks more appealing

    SSS
  • IgolideIgolide Member Posts: 222 Recruit
    And once we get more players into the game we can have proper matchmaking so skilled players don't get put with noobs
  • SSP_RismSSP_Rism Member Posts: 2,043 Underlord 2016
    Gold44 wrote: »
    And once we get more players into the game we can have proper matchmaking so skilled players don't get put with noobs

    Again we already have proper matchmaking just that the closest rank to 500 is things like 1 million, it runs on what's closest without having a set rule of how much skill rating a 500 newbie can play against.
    SSS
  • IgolideIgolide Member Posts: 222 Recruit
    edited March 22
    i meant that the matchmaking would work properly.
  • King_Of_DOOOMKing_Of_DOOOM Member Posts: 57 Recruit
    please dont
  • thecheeseloverthecheeselover Member Posts: 3,332 Noble
    edited March 28
    please dont

    why though?Please add on
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  • thecheeseloverthecheeselover Member Posts: 3,332 Noble
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  • BwearpoeBwearpoe Member Posts: 172 Recruit
    I think that every equipment items should be free and they should buff some of the starter weapons. That way it would be more balanced while also having the customisation options. As for income, maybe Skyvu can take some community made skin designs and turn them into actual skins in the game, or come up with new cosmetics that people would be willing to buy.
  • SSP_RismSSP_Rism Member Posts: 2,043 Underlord 2016
    Bwearpoe wrote: »
    I think that every equipment items should be free and they should buff some of the starter weapons. That way it would be more balanced while also having the customisation options. As for income, maybe Skyvu can take some community made skin designs and turn them into actual skins in the game, or come up with new cosmetics that people would be willing to buy.

    beebeegun has already been buffed and other starter weapons will be buffed in future along with other UP weapons.

    i say make it so equips 2 are still something you have to buy so people still have things to buy equips wise
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  • StarcStarc Member Posts: 1,069 Sergeant
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  • SSP_RismSSP_Rism Member Posts: 2,043 Underlord 2016
    I miss BBR

    nice bump thanks
    SSS
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  • thecheeseloverthecheeselover Member Posts: 3,332 Noble
    @Starc why the two hmmms?
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    Idk it's sort of my thing
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  • LethalLethal Member Posts: 313 Recruit
    The pro mode max selection is rather unneeded, no one will ever use radar again like that, considering it's useless compared to the skill to jump.
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  • SSP_RismSSP_Rism Member Posts: 2,043 Underlord 2016
    Lethal wrote: »
    The pro mode max selection is rather unneeded, no one will ever use radar again like that, considering it's useless compared to the skill to jump.

    >30% special speed+sw boots
    In comp no one will use radar i agree but casual people actually will make a decision+ it adds a layer of unpredictability since you could have either

    And nerfing radar totally would not work at all as it would make it useless
    SSS
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  • LethalLethal Member Posts: 313 Recruit
    @Dujuran so remove radar from the game? on a serious note though, radar does need a rework considering it basically removes stealth.
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  • SSP_RismSSP_Rism Member Posts: 2,043 Underlord 2016
    Lethal wrote: »
    @Dujuran so remove radar from the game? on a serious note though, radar does need a rework considering it basically removes stealth.

    maybe make it so you can see whoever damages you but not before that rather then just shooting, allowing for the radar to still be a radar but sneaky people can still be sneaky?
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  • LethalLethal Member Posts: 313 Recruit
    @Dujuran that's exactly what i have in mind
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  • IgolideIgolide Member Posts: 222 Recruit
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    @starc if you have nothing to contribute to a thread don't say anything. don't spam threads. It isn't necessary to say something on every thread.
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