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BBG Christmas Tournament 2v2 and 4v4 events DELAYED.

eXTCyeXTCy Member, MVP, SkyVu Beta Tester Posts: 5,466 Underlord 2016
edited December 2014 in BB GOLD
I'm sorry to say this, but 2v2's and 4v4's have been delayed until 2015.
It's just a lot to handle, I'm trying to focus on the 1v1's. instead.
So, If you havent signed up yet, you can join the 1v1 tourney.
I will close signups when it seems that everyone has joined.
Schedule will be released when signups close.

HOW IT WILL WORK:
You will all be seeded based on four 8 player FFA matches. Ban list applies, but Cloaking is unbanned for the 8 player matches.
you will play 3 matches each.
You will be seeded on K/D
For instance, if @fluttershyisbestpony‌ goes 12-2, 14-0, 20-0, then @fluttershyisbestpony‌ will have a record of 46-2, You subtract your deaths from your kills, to get your number.
@fluttershyisbestpony‌ has a number of 44.
on the other hand, if @LXSXL goes 6-8, 4-2, 6-7, then he will be 16-17 he will have a score of -1.

there is nothing wrong with a negative number.

first rounds, you will play one game.
Quater finals is best of 3
Semi finals is best of 5
Finals is first to 5 *MUST WIN FINALS BY 2 GAMES*


Players so far
1. @Wuggybunch‌
2. @Alex13
3. @Aresgow‌
4. @Slate‌
5. @MasterController‌
6. @OPTIC‌
7. @1UP‌
8. @blug‌
9. @Latro‌
10. @Inflirtrator‌
11. @Kidgunso‌
12. @NovaProspekt (didn't actually sign up yet, but i'll just keep a spot open <3)
13. @LXSXL
14. @killa18‌
15. @Bearmaster123‌
16. @BR_1000‌
17. @Pikachu‌
18. @fluttershyisbestpony‌
19. @golden_trynasty‌
20. @Clutch‌
22. @disconnected007‌
23. @ihugU
24. @EvanSeah8125‌
25. @Snowlion1234567890‌
26. @BBoss‌
27. @Onibeats‌
28. @SpectrumXIV‌
29. @adapt_69‌
30. @bbrsniperxx‌
31. @Epicupcake‌
32. @katanatenn‌
33. @AlphaZ‌
34. @BEASTLY585‌
35. @BUTTERYWIL‌
36. @Liche414‌




BAN LIST:
Banned Weapons and Equipment List-Version 2 (Not Final)

Soldier:

Sci-Fi HASR
Urine Trouble
OCO Gauntlet (Kamikaze strategy banned, normal use allowed)
Sake Bomb (Only for use in practice matches or trolling. Tourney matches not allowed with this weapon.)
Steamshot

Specials this class cannot use:

Cloaking (The backstab with bullets strategy with Soldier, the tactic might spread to Soaker as Urine Trouble is one this list, so I'm taking measures to prevent that.)
SW Boots (Only with the automatic primaries)

These particular weapons were placed on here due to either their overwhelming strength in the right hands or their annoyance to other players. The high-damage primaries of Soldier I would like to see not used in favor of the more lesser used, but still viable primaries, such as Sci-Fi ASR and Soaker. I recently ran a match with Sci-Fi ASR, so I can see that it's not a hyper speedkilling weapon that much anymore. I also despise the OCO Gauntlet/Sake Bomb kamikaze set, and it's purely a troll set with no real competitive reliability. As such, I am disallowing Sake Bomb entirely, but you are free to use OCO Gauntlet in its intended fashion as a orb launcher. Steamshot was also put on this list for the same reason as speedkilling. I'd like to see more utilization of the other Soldier secondaries such as SWS (one of my personal favorites), TNT Launcher, Bearzooka, Rockette Launcher (which isn't bad at all, in my recent matches with it.), and others. It also sets up some fairness for the class as well.

Heavy:

Provolowned
Sucker Punch (Only for use in practice matches or trolling. Tourney matches not allowed with this weapon.)
Freeze Blast

This setup is more along the lines of keeping things fair for range perspective, and for making sure the game doesn't crash. Provo I see more often then not because of its high damage and large ammo pool. I think that for this tourney, I'd like to see more use of Electric Honey for the Provo users, which is fairly powerful in its own right. Field Medic and Big Iron are also powerful primaries that Heavy users within the tourney can use, even Flamethrower, if they're feeling daring enough. Sucker Punch I put on this list for the same reason I put Sake Bomb on. It's a trolling weapon, and it can disrupt the momentum of battle, even if it is for an almost guaranteed kill. Other Secondaries such as Plasma Orb and Mother of Nature are better suited for Heavy players during the tourney. Freeze Blast is on the list strongly due to the reputation it has of making the game crash or lag heavily. No one enjoys having the game crash while in the middle of a match, so this is on here for precautionary measures.

Specials this class cannot use:

Caffeine Injection (Can only use if using a mid to short range primary, like Field Medic or Flamethrower.)
SW Boots (On long-range primaries. Mid to short range primaries can use it.)

Huggable

Phantom Hug (Same reason as Sake Bomb and Sucker Punch)

Specials this class cannot use: None

Demo

Light Matter
Bouncing Betty
Phat Man
RPL (In consideration. Not fully on the ban list yet.)

Each of these weapons were chosen on the basis of their position as what they entail on the battlefield. There are other primaries and secondaries for Demo that work quite well, but I will not deny the usefullness of RPL at times, hence why it's still up for debate and right now it's listing is merely partial. Light Matter is a powerful weapon, but some people have considered it a bit too spammy, so I'm going to put it up just in the name of fairness, same with Phat Man, which is prone to Demos camping out firing off nothing but these. Bouncing Betty is up for debate as well for the CQC maps, but in open maps, it's challenging to use right, so it may be allowed in the wide open maps, but not allowed in the small maps.

Specials this class cannot use:

None. Cloaking is not on here because most of what I see with it on Demo has been with either BB and Phat Man, and neither are allowed.

Sniper

Deadeye
Blowdart
Mamba's Boy

Deadeye and Mamba's Boy are considered among several to be the top rifles for noscoping Snipers in the game. With that said, I've seen players running around with Damage +3 variants of these rifles, which is overwhelmingly unfair at times. Mamba's Boy especially is a weapon that does not fit Sniper. It is a machine gun disguised as a sniper rifle. Deadeye at least take some skill, but I've seen players too easily pop shots across the map without a scope with the weapon, and that much damage downrange that quickly doesn't seem fair to me for the purpose of this tournament. Blowdart is the utterly cheapest weapon in the Sniper's arsenel. It's essentially just fire at the floor while running away and let the explosions do the rest. To many individuals, this weapon is hated greatly, and while I don't like it myself, I do think that people wouldn't be happy if I let this one in, so I'm putting it on the list.

Specials this class cannot use:
Cloaking (Period. Cloaking snipers to some extent are alright by some, but it will not be allowed within this tourney.)

Chub Scout

All weapons free to use.

This class is still up in the air in regards to what weapons may or may not be allowed. Many individuals do not like CSSG for some reason, but I think it does require a bit of skill to use effectively. Most of Chub Scout's weapons are unorthodox, but do take some decent skill to use effectively. I'm in consideration of this class in more detail, so I'll consider what may or may not be allowed later on in more detail, since it's obvious I'd need more data on this one.

Specials this class cannot use:
CI (Only with Doomstick)

Engineer

Hand Cannon
Black Hole

Do I need to explain why Hand Cannon is on the list? Black Hole on the other hand is fine in my opinion, but for the purpose of fairness in this tourney, I'm going to put it up here so that Engy players can find something else to utilize, because I know good Engy players who use a lot more then just Hand Cannon.

Specials this class cannot use: None (This may change.)

Assault

All weapons free to use.

I've heard a lot of things about Assault's weapons, and I've played with all of them. Assault's weapons are fairly challenging to use right, and maybe that's why a lot of people call him a bad class, because of the difficulty curve to play him right. After a lot of thought on the matter, I've decided that Assault will not have any weapons banned nor will he be banned from using any specials, but this might change later on.

Specials this class cannot use: None (Will like change.)

Assassin

Doom Cloud (In evaluation, may go off the list.)
Cosmic Bomb

I've done extensive testing on the Assassins's weapons before, and there is more or less some figment of truth to some of the claims. Doom Cloud is a fairly easy weapon to use with a lot of power behind it. However, it also demands a lot of maneuverability from the user since it's short-mid range, and also can be shot down easily. As such, I'm putting Doom Cloud on a more probationary slot until I determine the finality of its status in the tourney. Cosmic Bomb I normally don't have issues with, but enough people have complained about it that I think to be fair, we should not have that weapon in the tourney at all.

Specials this class cannot use: None (This is will likely change.)

Combat Tech

All weapons free to use

Combat Tech is one of those classes that I don't see running around a lot to some extent, and when I do, they usually aren't overwhelmingly powerful. Combat Tech's weapons are pretty skill demanding on some of them, and I think that the class itself doesn't need any restriction for the tourney, at least in my initial overview. This may or may not change.

Specials this class cannot use: Up for debate, no solid choices at the moment.

Arbiter

All weapons free to use (This will probably change.)

Almost everyone that I see playing Arbiter either does really well or not at all well. Greased Lightning I've gotten plenty of ideas about putting on the list, but at present it's one of the only few weapons Arbiter has that puts him square with some of the other classes. Glue Bomb and Bind Gun are both decent weapons, and I've seen people do well with them. The only thing about Arbiter that I would consider would be Cloaking Field, but let's be honest, if you see it up, you know someone's likely in it, so it's not exactly unfair.

Equipment Sets Banned

Damage +3
Explosions +3
(Stacking in general in regards to damage sets an unfair power level on the user when playing against those who are using varied equipment. For the sake of fairness, do not stack damage.)

Ammo +3
(Weapon sizes in clips are sometimes understandably small, and it's okay to use Ammo +2. Extending it so far that it increases your DPS to an absurd degree is not as bad as damage stacking, but I'd advise against it.)

Speed +3 (I realize this is a common idea for Huggy, but I've seen it crash the game before, so in the name of fairness, please only use Speed +2)
Armor +3 (I've seen this be beastly on Heavy, and I'd advise that players not utilize this tactic in order to attain a win.)

Special Rules That I Wish To Implement

Cloaking is not allowed in 1v1's in the tourney. No one wants to play hide and seek.
Hacking will get you disqualified and reported.
Reputation system abuse, such as rating everyone down, will not be tolerated.
Please do not have any offensive usernames,
Do not abuse the suicide glitch.
Do not glitch period.

As I've stated numerous times, this list is only one part of initial drafts before I set up the complete one. I'm talking with people now and running tests on the performance capabilities of each weapon and seeing if the class can do well without some of them.
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Comments

  • Lich_KingLich_King Member Posts: 5,097 Fabled
    edited December 2014
    Why you ban sci-fi hasr, it's not op. Wow no freedom to use my favorite loadouts. Have you nkt seen how fast soaker can kill a heavy? Also FIRST
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  • eXTCyeXTCy Member, MVP, SkyVu Beta Tester Posts: 5,466 Underlord 2016
    edited December 2014
    As I've stated numerous times, this list is only one part of initial drafts before I set up the complete one. I'm talking with people now and running tests on the performance capabilities of each weapon and seeing if the class can do well without some of them.
    -LXSXL
  • LXSXLLXSXL Member, MVP, SkyVu Beta Tester Posts: 3,358 Noble
    You mind giving me legit credit when you quote the banlist? Thanks.
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  • eXTCyeXTCy Member, MVP, SkyVu Beta Tester Posts: 5,466 Underlord 2016
    @LXSXL whoops XD forgot to do that XD
  • FluttershyisbestponyFluttershyisbestpony Member, MVP Posts: 3,946 Exalted
    Take all the time you need, I'll be looking forward to it. This tourney is really what I was hoping for when I said I couldn't revive the Bearacks due to time constraints and school, and this is just really cool to see, so thanks a million for picking up the torch @BronyAssassin . :)
  • MadogeeMadogee Member Posts: 468 Recruit
    First the FFA glitch should get fixed
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  • LXSXLLXSXL Member, MVP, SkyVu Beta Tester Posts: 3,358 Noble
    edited December 2014
    There is no set way to determine winners at the moment unless every participant is willing to say what the scores were on their side for the match because of the FFA glitch. As great as the idea is, this will be challenging to do until the FFA glitch is fixed. This set system based on K/D ratio is interesting, though.

    Take your time though.
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  • katanatennkatanatenn Member Posts: 709 Corporal
    edited December 2014
    Ok 1/9 out of the weapons( I use SW boots for every class, im also listing all my mostly used and only used weapons btw) I can use,
    my huggable has
    Primary:SS
    Secondary: Phantom Hug(can't use because it's banned >:(
    Melee: seesaw
    Special: SW boots
    Equipment uno: damage 2
    Equipment dos: speed 2

    Wil
    Primary: CSSG
    Secondary: building blocks
    Melee: stahp lights
    special SW boots
    Equipment one: explosive 2
    Equipment two: speed 2
    ^ @Br1000 said dis ish op to some players but I shouldn't have said it because it should get banned^

    Can't use soldier but it ish
    Primary: Sci Fi HASR
    Secondary: SteamShot
    melee: katana
    Special SW boots
    Equipment 1: damage 2
    Equipment 2: ammo 2

    Heavy
    Primary: Cheese gun
    Secondary: plasma orb
    Melee: sword in stone
    Special: SW boots
    Equipment 1: ammo 2
    Equipment 2: damage 2 (depends if using mothers nature or not)

    Demo (hate this class and never use it again)
    Primary: blast-o-mole
    Secondary: peace maker
    Melee: double hug
    Special: SW boots
    Equipment 1: explosion 2
    Equipment 2: speed 2

    Sniper
    Primary art of war (sorry X-Bow I had to leave you buddy)
    Secondary: fairy tail's fart (dust)
    Melee: cybernetic ram
    Special: SW boots
    Equipment 1: ammo 2
    Equipment 2: speed 2

    Engineer
    Primary: muskit
    Secondary: gerbynol
    Melee: wrench
    Special: SW boots
    Equipment 1: ammo 2
    Equipment 2: speed 2

    Female engineer (combat tech)
    Primary: plasma rifle
    Secondary: missles
    Melee: sludge hammer
    Special: SW boots
    Equipment 1: damage 2 (I think)
    Equipment 2 speed 2 ^ I think ^

    @Botch_As_Himself‌ (is Noob)
    Primary: orbs
    Secondary: well thingy or cosmic bomb
    Melee: ball of spikes
    Special: SW boots
    Equipment 1: ammo 2 or damage 2
    Equipment 2: speed 2

    Sandy chest (Sanchez)
    Primary: glue bomb
    Secondary: don't use at all, but it's invincible field
    Melee: starting Melee
    Special: SW boots
    Equipment 1: ammo 2 or explosive 2
    Equipment 2 explosive 2 or ammo 2

    @br1000 (ish better than that botch up there lol)
    Primary: bearail
    Secondary: energy shield
    Melee: claw thing
    Special: SW boots
    Equipment 1: armour 2
    Equipment 2: explosive 2

    But Idc if people used these set ups, they're just set ups I use 24/7, go and take meh kinda op and nooby @Botch_As_Himself‌ set ups >:3
  • FluttershyisbestponyFluttershyisbestpony Member, MVP Posts: 3,946 Exalted
    katanatenn wrote: »
    Demo (hate this class and never use it again)

    u wot m8, i sware i shrek u in turny wit my demo !
  • adapt_69adapt_69 Member Posts: 127 Recruit
    why no i hasr...I hate you @LXSXL‌
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  • LXSXLLXSXL Member, MVP, SkyVu Beta Tester Posts: 3,358 Noble
    edited December 2014
    @adapt_69‌

    So, instead of seeing this as an opportunity to try something new that you might find even more enjoyable to play with, you choose to say you hate me because in the name of fairness, I removed that weapon from use in the tournament?
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  • AlphaZAlphaZ Member Posts: 450 Recruit
    Could you sign me up for the 1v1 tournament? :)
  • OnesyOnesy Member Posts: 2,092 War Hero
    adapt_69 wrote: »
    why no i hasr...I hate you @LXSXL‌

    Cri about it
    @LXSXL removed for it a reason so stop getting your panties in a knot.
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  • LatroLatro Member Posts: 2,095 War Hero
    While I understand the suggestions are still being tested, I must argue against the banning of Provolowned, Phantom Hug, and Dead Eye. Provolowned has an insanely long wind-up time (which you can no longer keep spinning by repeatedly tapping the fire button) and unlike Sake Bomb and Sucker Punch, Phantom Hug is single reserve and not entirely debilitating. Also, how is Dead Eye banned and yet Art Of War is all good? AoW is widely recognised as the best Sniper primary, and can deal more damage than Dead Eye in the same amount of time. And no, I don't think AoW is balanced because it lacks a scope; if anything, the scope makes quick sniping more difficult, especially with the re-introduction of random dispersion angles.
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  • katanatennkatanatenn Member Posts: 709 Corporal
    katanatenn wrote: »
    Demo (hate this class and never use it again)

    u wot m8, i sware i shrek u in turny wit my demo !

    It's a bad class, too UP for me
  • HideousJerkHideousJerk Member Posts: 923 Corporal
    I SIGNED
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  • FluttershyisbestponyFluttershyisbestpony Member, MVP Posts: 3,946 Exalted
    @katanatenn I guarantee you'll be singing a different tune if we lock horns in the tourney. I don't blame you though, with a set like that...!
  • DevilishMeDevilishMe Member Posts: 733 Corporal
    edited December 2014
    Christmas contest?
  • katanatennkatanatenn Member Posts: 709 Corporal
    katanatenn wrote: »
    katanatenn wrote: »
    Demo (hate this class and never use it again)

    u wot m8, i sware i shrek u in turny wit my demo !

    It's a bad class, too UP for me

    You guys disagree when I said "For Me" wow you guys are bad at readeing, no offence but you need to
  • katanatennkatanatenn Member Posts: 709 Corporal
    @katanatenn I guarantee you'll be singing a different tune if we lock horns in the tourney. I don't blame you though, with a set like that...!

    but I don't use demo since he's UP "For Me" not you
  • LXSXLLXSXL Member, MVP, SkyVu Beta Tester Posts: 3,358 Noble
    Okay, since there is obviously some confusion about the banlist, I'll piecemeal it and break it down even further so you people don't even have a TL;DR excuse.
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  • Lich_KingLich_King Member Posts: 5,097 Fabled
    Fix your banned weapons
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  • LXSXLLXSXL Member, MVP, SkyVu Beta Tester Posts: 3,358 Noble
    edited December 2014
    I'm doing the list based on testing and what would likely be best to attain as fair as possible a contest between all the classes. If you've got a problem with the list, I will not listen to aggressive demands to change the list. What I will listen to is educated suggestions about what fits and what may not fit on the list, but I will stand by any set part of the list I feel it necessary to, but it's always subject to change before the deadline is over.
    "The Key is Strategy"
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  • eXTCyeXTCy Member, MVP, SkyVu Beta Tester Posts: 5,466 Underlord 2016
    You guys are really taking this list really hard.
    Give @LXSXL some slack. if anything,blame me instead.
  • Alex17Alex17 Member Posts: 1,613 Lieutenant
    AlphaZ wrote: »
    Could you sign me up for the 1v1 tournament? :)

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    @LXSXL‌ @BronyAssassin‌ ban him........ NAO



    Way too op needs to be nerfed
  • Dban1Dban1 Banned, Member, SkyVu Beta Tester Posts: 9,507 Fabled
    How do I sign up for 1v1
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  • eXTCyeXTCy Member, MVP, SkyVu Beta Tester Posts: 5,466 Underlord 2016
    Dban1 wrote: »
    How do I sign up for 1v1
    idk. Did i put you in?
  • DevilishMeDevilishMe Member Posts: 733 Corporal
    Is the 2v2 n 4v4 sign up closed?
  • SpectrumXIVSpectrumXIV Member, SkyVu Beta Tester Posts: 3,034 Noble
    Tbh, using heavy with EH would be no use in this tournament. With Caffeine and Boots banned, there isn't much specials you can use. Healing Tent doesn't fit in the meta as the healing cannot surpass the damage you're taking. IC is absolutely pointless as it blocks your shots. Cloaking just doesn't fit a tanky class like Riggs when you're using EH. The only one that seems viable is Tesla Shield which COULD possibly help against Soldiers and Demo since steamshot is banned.
    What you learn today will change what you are tomorrow. Put your heart into what you're doing, or you'll spend your life never changing and never moving. -14_SP3CTRUM
  • FREESHFREESH Member Posts: 5,443 Fabled
    @SpectrumXIV they didn't ban spreadshot though
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  • katanatennkatanatenn Member Posts: 709 Corporal
    I'm sorry to say this, but 2v2's and 4v4's have been delayed until 2015.
    It's just a lot to handle, I'm trying to focus on the 1v1's. instead.
    So, If you havent signed up yet, you can join the 1v1 tourney.
    I will close signups when it seems that everyone has joined.
    Schedule will be released when signups close.

    HOW IT WILL WORK:
    You will all be seeded based on four 8 player FFA matches. Ban list applies, but Cloaking is unbanned for the 8 player matches.
    you will play 3 matches each.
    You will be seeded on K/D
    For instance, if @fluttershyisbestpony‌ goes 12-2, 14-0, 20-0, then @fluttershyisbestpony‌ will have a record of 46-2, You subtract your deaths from your kills, to get your number.
    @fluttershyisbestpony‌ has a number of 44.
    on the other hand, if @LXSXL goes 6-8, 4-2, 6-7, then he will be 16-17 he will have a score of -1.

    there is nothing wrong with a negative number.

    first rounds, you will play one game.
    Quater finals is best of 3
    Semi finals is best of 5
    Finals is first to 5 *MUST WIN FINALS BY 2 GAMES*


    Players so far
    1. @Wuggybunch‌
    2. @Alex13
    3. @Aresgow‌
    4. @Slate‌
    5. @MasterController‌
    6. @OPTIC‌
    7. @1UP‌
    8. @blug‌
    9. @Latro‌
    10. @Inflirtrator‌
    11. @Kidgunso‌
    12. @NovaProspekt (didn't actually sign up yet, but i'll just keep a spot open <3)
    13. @LXSXL
    14. @killa18‌
    15. @Bearmaster123‌
    16. @BR_1000‌
    17. @Pikachu‌
    18. @fluttershyisbestpony‌
    19. @golden_trynasty‌
    20. @Clutch‌
    22. @disconnected007‌
    23. @ihugU
    24. @EvanSeah8125‌
    25. @Snowlion1234567890‌
    26. @BBoss‌
    27. @Onibeats‌
    28. @SpectrumXIV‌
    29. @adapt_69‌
    30. @bbrsniperxx‌
    31. @Epicupcake‌
    32. @katanatenn‌
    33. @AlphaZ‌
    34. @BEASTLY585‌
    35. @BUTTERYWIL‌
    36. @Liche414‌




    BAN LIST:
    Banned Weapons and Equipment List-Version 2 (Not Final)

    Soldier:

    Sci-Fi HASR
    Urine Trouble
    OCO Gauntlet (Kamikaze strategy banned, normal use allowed)
    Sake Bomb (Only for use in practice matches or trolling. Tourney matches not allowed with this weapon.)
    Steamshot

    Specials this class cannot use:

    Cloaking (The backstab with bullets strategy with Soldier, the tactic might spread to Soaker as Urine Trouble is one this list, so I'm taking measures to prevent that.)
    SW Boots (Only with the automatic primaries)

    These particular weapons were placed on here due to either their overwhelming strength in the right hands or their annoyance to other players. The high-damage primaries of Soldier I would like to see not used in favor of the more lesser used, but still viable primaries, such as Sci-Fi ASR and Soaker. I recently ran a match with Sci-Fi ASR, so I can see that it's not a hyper speedkilling weapon that much anymore. I also despise the OCO Gauntlet/Sake Bomb kamikaze set, and it's purely a troll set with no real competitive reliability. As such, I am disallowing Sake Bomb entirely, but you are free to use OCO Gauntlet in its intended fashion as a orb launcher. Steamshot was also put on this list for the same reason as speedkilling. I'd like to see more utilization of the other Soldier secondaries such as SWS (one of my personal favorites), TNT Launcher, Bearzooka, Rockette Launcher (which isn't bad at all, in my recent matches with it.), and others. It also sets up some fairness for the class as well.

    Heavy:

    Provolowned
    Sucker Punch (Only for use in practice matches or trolling. Tourney matches not allowed with this weapon.)
    Freeze Blast

    This setup is more along the lines of keeping things fair for range perspective, and for making sure the game doesn't crash. Provo I see more often then not because of its high damage and large ammo pool. I think that for this tourney, I'd like to see more use of Electric Honey for the Provo users, which is fairly powerful in its own right. Field Medic and Big Iron are also powerful primaries that Heavy users within the tourney can use, even Flamethrower, if they're feeling daring enough. Sucker Punch I put on this list for the same reason I put Sake Bomb on. It's a trolling weapon, and it can disrupt the momentum of battle, even if it is for an almost guaranteed kill. Other Secondaries such as Plasma Orb and Mother of Nature are better suited for Heavy players during the tourney. Freeze Blast is on the list strongly due to the reputation it has of making the game crash or lag heavily. No one enjoys having the game crash while in the middle of a match, so this is on here for precautionary measures.

    Specials this class cannot use:

    Caffeine Injection (Can only use if using a mid to short range primary, like Field Medic or Flamethrower.)
    SW Boots (On long-range primaries. Mid to short range primaries can use it.)

    Huggable

    Phantom Hug (Same reason as Sake Bomb and Sucker Punch)

    Specials this class cannot use: None

    Demo

    Light Matter
    Bouncing Betty
    Phat Man
    RPL (In consideration. Not fully on the ban list yet.)

    Each of these weapons were chosen on the basis of their position as what they entail on the battlefield. There are other primaries and secondaries for Demo that work quite well, but I will not deny the usefullness of RPL at times, hence why it's still up for debate and right now it's listing is merely partial. Light Matter is a powerful weapon, but some people have considered it a bit too spammy, so I'm going to put it up just in the name of fairness, same with Phat Man, which is prone to Demos camping out firing off nothing but these. Bouncing Betty is up for debate as well for the CQC maps, but in open maps, it's challenging to use right, so it may be allowed in the wide open maps, but not allowed in the small maps.

    Specials this class cannot use:

    None. Cloaking is not on here because most of what I see with it on Demo has been with either BB and Phat Man, and neither are allowed.

    Sniper

    Deadeye
    Blowdart
    Mamba's Boy

    Deadeye and Mamba's Boy are considered among several to be the top rifles for noscoping Snipers in the game. With that said, I've seen players running around with Damage +3 variants of these rifles, which is overwhelmingly unfair at times. Mamba's Boy especially is a weapon that does not fit Sniper. It is a machine gun disguised as a sniper rifle. Deadeye at least take some skill, but I've seen players too easily pop shots across the map without a scope with the weapon, and that much damage downrange that quickly doesn't seem fair to me for the purpose of this tournament. Blowdart is the utterly cheapest weapon in the Sniper's arsenel. It's essentially just fire at the floor while running away and let the explosions do the rest. To many individuals, this weapon is hated greatly, and while I don't like it myself, I do think that people wouldn't be happy if I let this one in, so I'm putting it on the list.

    Specials this class cannot use:
    Cloaking (Period. Cloaking snipers to some extent are alright by some, but it will not be allowed within this tourney.)

    Chub Scout

    All weapons free to use.

    This class is still up in the air in regards to what weapons may or may not be allowed. Many individuals do not like CSSG for some reason, but I think it does require a bit of skill to use effectively. Most of Chub Scout's weapons are unorthodox, but do take some decent skill to use effectively. I'm in consideration of this class in more detail, so I'll consider what may or may not be allowed later on in more detail, since it's obvious I'd need more data on this one.

    Specials this class cannot use:
    CI (Only with Doomstick)

    Engineer

    Hand Cannon
    Black Hole

    Do I need to explain why Hand Cannon is on the list? Black Hole on the other hand is fine in my opinion, but for the purpose of fairness in this tourney, I'm going to put it up here so that Engy players can find something else to utilize, because I know good Engy players who use a lot more then just Hand Cannon.

    Specials this class cannot use: None (This may change.)

    Assault

    All weapons free to use.

    I've heard a lot of things about Assault's weapons, and I've played with all of them. Assault's weapons are fairly challenging to use right, and maybe that's why a lot of people call him a bad class, because of the difficulty curve to play him right. After a lot of thought on the matter, I've decided that Assault will not have any weapons banned nor will he be banned from using any specials, but this might change later on.

    Specials this class cannot use: None (Will like change.)

    Assassin

    Doom Cloud (In evaluation, may go off the list.)
    Cosmic Bomb

    I've done extensive testing on the Assassins's weapons before, and there is more or less some figment of truth to some of the claims. Doom Cloud is a fairly easy weapon to use with a lot of power behind it. However, it also demands a lot of maneuverability from the user since it's short-mid range, and also can be shot down easily. As such, I'm putting Doom Cloud on a more probationary slot until I determine the finality of its status in the tourney. Cosmic Bomb I normally don't have issues with, but enough people have complained about it that I think to be fair, we should not have that weapon in the tourney at all.

    Specials this class cannot use: None (This is will likely change.)

    Combat Tech

    All weapons free to use

    Combat Tech is one of those classes that I don't see running around a lot to some extent, and when I do, they usually aren't overwhelmingly powerful. Combat Tech's weapons are pretty skill demanding on some of them, and I think that the class itself doesn't need any restriction for the tourney, at least in my initial overview. This may or may not change.

    Specials this class cannot use: Up for debate, no solid choices at the moment.

    Arbiter

    All weapons free to use (This will probably change.)

    Almost everyone that I see playing Arbiter either does really well or not at all well. Greased Lightning I've gotten plenty of ideas about putting on the list, but at present it's one of the only few weapons Arbiter has that puts him square with some of the other classes. Glue Bomb and Bind Gun are both decent weapons, and I've seen people do well with them. The only thing about Arbiter that I would consider would be Cloaking Field, but let's be honest, if you see it up, you know someone's likely in it, so it's not exactly unfair.

    Equipment Sets Banned

    Damage +3
    Explosions +3
    (Stacking in general in regards to damage sets an unfair power level on the user when playing against those who are using varied equipment. For the sake of fairness, do not stack damage.)

    Ammo +3
    (Weapon sizes in clips are sometimes understandably small, and it's okay to use Ammo +2. Extending it so far that it increases your DPS to an absurd degree is not as bad as damage stacking, but I'd advise against it.)

    Speed +3 (I realize this is a common idea for Huggy, but I've seen it crash the game before, so in the name of fairness, please only use Speed +2)
    Armor +3 (I've seen this be beastly on Heavy, and I'd advise that players not utilize this tactic in order to attain a win.)

    Special Rules That I Wish To Implement

    Cloaking is not allowed in 1v1's in the tourney. No one wants to play hide and seek.
    Hacking will get you disqualified and reported.
    Reputation system abuse, such as rating everyone down, will not be tolerated.
    Please do not have any offensive usernames,
    Do not abuse the suicide glitch.
    Do not glitch period.

    As I've stated numerous times, this list is only one part of initial drafts before I set up the complete one. I'm talking with people now and running tests on the performance capabilities of each weapon and seeing if the class can do well without some of them.

    So I can is SW boots with Chub Scout?
  • LXSXLLXSXL Member, MVP, SkyVu Beta Tester Posts: 3,358 Noble
    @katanatenn‌
    Short answer, yes.
    "The Key is Strategy"
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  • Just_killin_noobsJust_killin_noobs Member Posts: 286 Recruit
    *cough* *cough* forgetting me?
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  • EvanSeah8125EvanSeah8125 Member Posts: 96 Recruit
    Im not in bruh !
  • BEASTLY585BEASTLY585 Member Posts: 24 Recruit
    -RPL should b banned
    -Sci-Fi HASR should be allowed, and so should steamshot (in my opinion)
  • EpicupcakeEpicupcake Member Posts: 126 Recruit
    @bronyAssassin I admire how much work you have put onto it, and guys maybe give him some breathing space it's just a draft right?
  • EpicupcakeEpicupcake Member Posts: 126 Recruit
    But, chainsaw shotgun should be banned
  • EpicupcakeEpicupcake Member Posts: 126 Recruit
    Couldn't someone get one kill and suicide for the rest of the game?
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